Exequror:
Cruiser skill bonuses:
15% bonus to Remote Armor Repair amount
5% reduction in Remote Armor Repair cap use
Role Bonus:
1000% bonus to the range of Remote Armor Repairers
100% bonus to Logistic Drone (both armor and shield) rep amount
Slot layout: 3 H (-1), 4 M, 6 L (+3), 3 turrets (-1)
Fittings: 610 PWG (+110), 275 CPU (+25)
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1000(+101) / 1400(+227) / 1600(+506)
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 1375(+375) / 264s(-92.25s) / 5.2 (+2.4)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 240(+81) / 0.61 / 11020000 / 6.3s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50(+10) / 50(+10)
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 55km(+7.5) / 365(+43) / 8(+3)
Sensor strength: 15 Magnetometric (+2)
Signature radius: 80 (-40)
Cargo capacity: 495 (-105)

Scythe:
Cruiser skill bonuses:
15% bonus to Shield Transporter boost amount
5% reduction in Shield Transporter cap use
Role Bonus:
1000% bonus to the range of Shield Transporters
100% bonus to Logistic Drone (both armor and shield) rep amount
Slot layout: 3 H (-2), 5 M (+2), 5 L (+2), 2 turrets (-1), 1 launcher (-1)
Fittings: 330 PWG (-95), 415 CPU (+190)
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1400(+424) / 1100(+124) / 1300(+324)
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 1250(+468.75) / 240s(-38.75s) / 5.2 (+2.4)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 250(+47) / 0.6(+0.095) / 11110000 / 6.2s (+0.9)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 45 (+40) / 45 (+40)
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 52.5km(+15) / 400(+55) / 8(+2)
Sensor strength: 13 Ladar (+2)
Signature radius: 75 (-25)
Cargo capacity: 475 (+35)

I will one up you:

1000% bonus to the range of Remote Armor Repairers
250% bonus to range of ECCM Projectors
50% bonus to range of Remote Sensor Booster

Put the Warfare in Information Warfare.

I will one up you:

50% bonus to range of Remote Sensor Booster

Put the Warfare in Information Warfare.

[quote=I'm Down]Exequror in particular is going to be so close to t2 in strength that why would you ever ask people to fly a more expensive option again.

with Legion, it's 315 per second with an Exequor with t2 Medium Mods.

with Legion, its 394 per sec with 3 large T2 (much more unlikely than solace) for an Oneiros.
/quote]
I did read all of it but this is what stuck out the most
You are basing your stats with all 3 medium reps and a off grid t3 booster for the exequror and com pairing it to 3 large reps despite the oneiros being able to use 4 remote reps which spreads the gap quite a bit, especially with a off grid booster. Or we you thinking about a energy transfer for the oneiros? If so then why would the exequror not use an energy transfer as well? That would make them comparable ships again. Point being their is still a big difference between the ships.

While I cannot provide an exact number I do know there are a lot of triage carrier pilots out there.
And again could you show this 3 rep oneiros fit?

FYI I have absolutely no intention to buff T2 logistics at any point. They're really amazingly powerful as they are and do not need any buffs.

Current T2 logistics are well balanced for some aspects of the game (most obviously fleet warfare) and are probably too powerful for others (Mr. Revedhort's preferred solo play for instance). Improving solo options without either killing fun aspects of group play or making solo too easymode is definitely a goal of ours, but the solution there isn't to keep the learning cliff facing support pilots.
The biggest reason that I believe these Support Cruisers will not significantly compound the problems Logistics cause for soloers is that T1 cruisers are far far easier to kill. It's the great difficulty killing a T2 Logi combined with their repping power that really causes the most issues and if these Support Cruisers prove too powerful, survivability is one of the first areas in which I'll nerf them.

And before incursions how often were they used? Pretty much non existent... There is a good reason they are hardly used for pvp...

Some people have mentioned swapping out the rep drone bonuses on the Scythe and Exequror for range and/or strength bonuses to remote eccm and remote sensor boosters. This would be something new to the game, and would be a power the tech II logis presently lack. Now one could later buff the tech II logis to retain this bonus.

However, the problem comes that then these ships would quite possibly not get use as logis but instead as gate camper support ships. Also, it would mean bonusing mods that go in mids, which has always been a problem with the present tracking link bonuses on tech II logis. Mids that are effectively in short supply on either ship for differing reasons. Also that is a bonus which is largely ignored except for incursion runners. And well if we are going to determine ship bonuses based on incursion runners wishes then let's just call the game Incursions Online.

Therefore, I think the rep drone bonus is actually about the best that can be done. Of course rep drones could use a buff to speed and durability. That might give the bonus some meaningful use. And the general drone interface needs to be simplified. Right clicking and scrolling to engage target is slower than a sinlgle click or f button for the remote reppers. The delay from the interface and the travel time is why rep drones lack favor. But if these issues can be addressed the rep drone bonus is a good secondary bonus for these 2 ships.

meh

CCP what are you doing?
kills logy pilots and boost noobs
are you really think thats a good idea?

Today's Basilisk
Large ST T2 - 384 - 71,4 km
Medium ST T2 - 192 - 51km

Future's Osprey
Large ST T2 - 672 - 92,4 km
Medium ST T2 - 336 - 66 km

The T1 ships are set up for medium reps not large. If you have decent fitting skills you can fit 1 large rep on them

The T1 ships are set up for medium reps not large. If you have decent fitting skills you can fit 1 large rep on them

And what will youd capacitor useage be like? I know there is no way in hell it will be stable.

[Osprey] Winter

Large Shield Transporter II
Large Shield Transporter II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Damage Control II
Reactor Control Unit II
Co-Processor II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

This is the only way your fit will work. there is no room for an energy transfer and it caps out in 13 seconds.
if you were to use 2 Ospreys why not use medium reps on them both?

like this it is 18% over CPU capacity, swap a reactor control for a co-procesor and you end up over by 13% power grid
and 4% cpu. it also caps out in merely 13 seconds despite being chained due to the extreme capacior demand from the large transporters. i dont think they are going to give the ship a 20% increase to CPU